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The Zoochat Photographic Guide to Old World Primates

Discussion in 'Wildlife & Nature Conservation' started by Chlidonias, 22 Apr 2018.

  1. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    ZTL lists a few pure Chlorocebus as non-(sub)specific, they like to just lump entire populations with only a handful of pure holders as sensu lato as oppose to trying to actually work it out..

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  2. ronnienl

    ronnienl Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    I have added a photo of this species/sub-species in the Uganda-wildlife gallery.
     
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  3. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Thanks, that is a brilliant photo!

    For others: Golden Monkey | ZooChat
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  4. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    I have just gone through and compiled a list of the species (as recognised in this thread) which do not yet have photos in the Zoochat galleries. There are about 51 species unrepresented, as listed below. (For comparative purposes, there are about 190 species total in the thread of which 146 are represented by photos, which is a fantastic percentage). [I will keep this post updated whenever "new" species are added to the galleries]

    There are additionally a few species represented here only by photos of museum specimens and I have included those in the list below as well (suitably annotated).


    Tarsiers:
    (But see the post for this genus regarding the taxonomic identification issues: The Zoochat Photographic Guide to Old World Primates)
    Gorontalo Tarsier Tarsius supriatnai
    Wallace's Tarsier Tarsius wallacei
    Lariang Tarsier Tarsius lariang
    Dian's Tarsier Tarsius dentatus (syn. Tarsius dianae)
    Makassar Tarsier Tarsius fuscus [although represented by an old museum specimen labelled as being this species]
    Selayar Tarsier Tarsius tarsier
    Pigmy Tarsier Tarsius pumilus
    Siau Tarsier Tarsius tumpara
    Sangihe Tarsier Tarsius sangirensis
    Peleng Tarsier Tarsius pelengensis
    Togean Tarsier Tarsius niemitzi

    Colobus:
    Black Colobus Colobus satanus (only depicted as a museum specimen)
    Olive Colobus Procolobus verus
    Bouvier's Red Colobus Piliocolobus bouvieri
    Niger Delta Red Colobus Piliocolobus epieni
    Central African Red Colobus Piliocolobus foai
    Pennant's Red Colobus Piliocolobus pennantii
    Preuss' Red Colobus Piliocolobus preussi
    Thollon's Red Colobus Piliocolobus tholloni

    Langurs:
    Northern Plains Grey Langur Semnopithecus entellus
    Nepal Grey Langur Semnopithecus schistaceus
    Popa Langur Trachypithecus popa
    Sarawak Langur or Bornean Banded Leaf Monkey Presbytis chrysomelas
    Sumatran Banded Leaf Monkey Presbytis percura
    White-fronted Leaf Monkey Presbytis frontata
    Hose's Leaf Monkey Presbytis hosei
    Sabah Grey Leaf Monkey Presbytis sabana
    Kutai Grey Leaf Monkey Presbytis canicrus
    Pagai Leaf Monkey Presbytis potenziani
    Siberut Leaf Monkey Presbytis siberu
    Tonkin Snub-nosed Monkey Rhinopithecus avunculus
    Pig-tailed Langur Simias concolor

    Guenons:
    Preuss' Monkey Cercopithecus preussi
    Sun-tailed Guenon Cercopithecus solatus
    Lesula Cercopithecus lomamiensis
    Dryas Monkey or Salonga Guenon Cercopithecus dryas
    Doggett's Silver Monkey Cercopithecus doggetti
    Dent's Monkey Cercopithecus denti (photos labeled as such in the galleries for Dubai are actually Mona Monkeys C. mona)
    Sclater's Guenon Cercopithecus sclateri

    Macaques:
    White-cheeked Macaque Macaca leucogenys
    Arunachal Macaque Macaca munzala
    Sela Macaque Macaca selai (although I'm not taking this as a valid species)

    Mangabeys:
    Johnston's Mangabey Lophocebus johnstoni
    Opdenbosch's Mangabey Lophocebus opdenboschi
    Osman Hill's Mangabey Lophocebus osmani
    Uganda Mangabey Lophocebus ugandae
    Kipunji Rungwecebus kipunji

    Apes:
    White-bearded or Bornean Agile Gibbon Hylobates albibarbis
    Concolor or Black Crested Gibbon Nomascus concolor
    Cao Vit or Eastern Crested Gibbon Nomascus nasutus
    Tapanuli Orangutan Pongo tapanuliensis
     
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  5. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    There are 146 species represented by photos (out of about 190 total species in the thread - the species which are currently unrepresented by photos are in the post immediately before this one). There are currently 248 photos in total in the thread, by 81 members. I will keep this tally updated whenever I add/remove/change photos [last update: 27 August 2023].


    (One photo)
    @Andrew_NZP
    @Angel
    @Azubaa
    @bongorob
    @Buldeo
    @Casuarius_casuarius
    @Chris79
    @Eagle
    @eggshelluk
    @elefante
    @fanaloka
    @FunkyGibbon
    @geomorph
    @GerbenElzinga
    @J I N X
    @Junklekitteb
    @Martin B
    @Miss Gulch
    @MRJ
    @Najade
    @NigeW
    @Nisha
    @OrangePerson
    @Patrick87
    @ralph
    @Reedstilt
    @Rick J
    @robreintjes
    @savethelephant
    @SilkySifaka
    @SmallestGiraffe
    @snowleopard
    @sooty mangabey
    @taun
    @TeaLovingDave
    @tigris115
    @Tim May
    @UngulateNerd92
    @WhistlingKite24
    @zooboyabroad
    @zoo_enthusiast
    @zoofanbelgium
    @zoogiraffe
    @Zooreviewsuk
    @4ways NAP


    (Two photos)
    @Benosaurus
    @bongowwf
    @carlos55
    @chilly
    @Deer Forest2
    @Javan Rhino
    @Joker1706
    @KevinVar
    @Michal Sloviak
    @Newzooboy
    @Nick@Amsterdam
    @ronnienl
    @Sarus Crane
    @TheoV


    (Three photos)
    @GregOz
    @Vision


    (Four photos)
    @baboon
    @Gigit
    @Goura
    @lintworm
    @MagpieGoose
    @YuanChang


    (Five photos)
    @Deer Forest
    @gentle lemur
    @LaughingDove
    @ro6ca66
    @ThylacineAlive
    @vogelcommando


    (Over five photos)
    @alexkant - 7 photos
    @Himimomi - 7 photos
    @Hix - 8 photos
    @devilfish - 11 photos
    @Tomek - 11 photos
    @Giant Eland - 14 photos
    @Maguari - 17 photos
    @Chlidonias - 40 photos
     
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  6. Maguari

    Maguari Never could get the hang of Thursdays. 15+ year member Premium Member

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    Are there bonus points available for being in one of the photos as well?

    (You'll have to guess which.)
     
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  7. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    You can take a bonus point if you like. But I get a bonus point for knowing where you are in the photo though!
     
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    Maguari Never could get the hang of Thursdays. 15+ year member Premium Member

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    This seems fair.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Lots of zoos have "S. entellus", but the multiple species were formerly all lumped under that one name. Hence the zoos' names cannot be taken as being the actual S. entellus.
     
  11. Jungle Man

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    I have a question in Kaeng Krachan national park what subspecies of dusky leaf langur is found?
     
  12. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    At Kaeng Krachan is T. o. flavicauda.
     
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    Ok thanks for the info.
     
  14. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    This doesn't change the stats for the thread really, but a genetic study was just published wherein the three subspecies of Banded Leaf Monkey Presbytis femoralis were all elevated to full species: Faecal DNA to the rescue: Shotgun sequencing of non-invasive samples reveals two subspecies of Southeast Asian primates to be Critically Endangered species | Scientific Reports

    The three species are the Raffles' Leaf Monkey P. femoralis, the Robinson's Leaf Monkey P. robinsoni, and the Sumatran Banded Leaf Monkey P. percura. Of the three species, only one was represented by a photo anyway (P. robinsoni) so the numbers haven't changed.
     
  15. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    There has been another recent primate split, where the Phayre's Langur Trachypithecus phayrei has become three species. The paper can be read here: Mitogenomic phylogeny of the Asian colobine genus <i>Trachypithecus</i> with special focus on <i>Trachypithecus phayrei</i> (Blyth, 1847) and description of a new species

    The western form retains the name T. phayrei; the form in central Burma has been described as a new species, T. popa; and the eastern form (previously the subspecies T. p. shanicus) has been renamed T. melamera.

    The only one of these depicted in the galleries is T. melamera, which is a bit annoying because until now every species of Trachypithecus was pictured in the thread.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    A photo of one of these three species, the Raffles' Leaf Monkey Presbytis femoralis has recently been added to the gallery, with a photo taken in the wild in Singapore by @Casuarius_casuarius

    On page two of the thread, in this post: The Zoochat Photographic Guide to Old World Primates

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    Raffles’ Banded Langur (Presbytis femoralis) - ZooChat



    I neglected to mention an update for this post last year, where a photo of Trachypithecus phayrei had been uploaded by @Junklekitteb from the Bannerghatta Biological Park in India; on page two of the thread in this post: The Zoochat Photographic Guide to Old World Primates

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    Phayre’s Langur (Trachypithecus phayrei) - ZooChat

    It's not the best photo for showing the species, but it means that the only Trachypithecus not currently represented in the thread is the Popa Langur T. popa from central Burma.
     
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    Just uploaded some photos of subspecies P. b temminckii in the The Gambia Wildlife Gallery ( Western red colobus - Piliocolobus badius temminckii - ZooChat , Western red colobus - Piliocolobus badius temminckii - ZooChat , Western red colobus - Piliocolobus badius temminckii - ZooChat , Western red colobus - Piliocolobus badius temminckii - ZooChat and Western red colobus - Piliocolobus badius temminckii - ZooChat ) so if you want to change the photo of the museum specimen for a photo of a living animal, you can choose yourself.
     
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  18. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    That's great. I used two of those photos to replace the photo of the taxidermy animal.
     
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  19. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    An amazing new species has been added to the thread, with Myanmar Snub-nosed Monkey Rhinopithecus strykeri by @YuanChang - an event I would never have predicted. This species is probably the one I would have said was the most unlikely Old World primate to ever be represented in the Zoochat galleries (the list of the 50-odd unrepresented species is a few posts up, #144).

    The individual is a rescued animal held since 2013 at the Yaojiaping Rescue Station in China. Several excellent photos are in the China Other gallery. The one below is the one I have used in the thread:


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    Myanmar snub-nosed monkey (Rhinopithecus strykeri) - ZooChat
     
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  20. TeaLovingDave

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    I'd have said Piliocolobus waldronae, but it appears you don't recognise that one as a distinct species!

    It's a pity that FunkyGibbon left the forum some time ago, as he has photographs of Tapanuli Orangutan - but given the recent discovery that the species occurred in North American (and possibly European) collections into the 1990s there is a decent chance we might be able to unearth a photograph thus.