Join our zoo community

Theoretical walkthroughs

Discussion in 'Speculative Zoo Design and Planning' started by Mr Gharial, 17 May 2021.

  1. ParathePineapple

    ParathePineapple Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18 Nov 2021
    Posts:
    147
    Location:
    Fairfield, Ohio
    I know this thread seems to have been inactive for quite some time but how would red pandas do in a walkthrough?
     
  2. Haliaeetus

    Haliaeetus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    14 Mar 2021
    Posts:
    2,263
    Location:
    Orléans, France
    It doesn't seem realistic.
    Red Pandas should feel distressed if many humans cross "their" territory, and would be prone to hide or flee. There wouldn't be interactions between the public and these shy animals (that aren't lemurs or monkeys), it would be disappointing for the visitors and not interesting for the animals.
     
    Mr Gharial and ParathePineapple like this.
  3. Neil chace

    Neil chace Well-Known Member 5+ year member

    Joined:
    27 Aug 2018
    Posts:
    4,522
    Location:
    Earth
    Knoxville Zoo actually has a "walk-through" exhibit with red pandas. I've never been, but have seen pictures/videos of the exhibit.
     
    ParathePineapple likes this.
  4. Zooplantman

    Zooplantman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23 Jan 2008
    Posts:
    4,144
    Location:
    New York, USA
    Depends on the size of the total space and whether animals could keep the distance from humans that they choose.
    So it also depends on what you wish the visitor experience to be.
     
    ParathePineapple likes this.
  5. Mr Gharial

    Mr Gharial Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2020
    Posts:
    2,335
    Location:
    Apeldoorn
    This isn't really a walkthrough though, since the panda's can't actually get onto the path

    I wouldn't do them for a full walkthrough, but you can do a walk-under enclosure. Where the panda's can climb over branches across the path
     
    BenFoxster and ParathePineapple like this.
  6. ParathePineapple

    ParathePineapple Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18 Nov 2021
    Posts:
    147
    Location:
    Fairfield, Ohio
    Okay I Will keep all of this in mind while making my red panda habitat, thanks for the help guys.
     
    Zooplantman and Mr Gharial like this.
  7. GiratinaIsGod

    GiratinaIsGod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    16 Oct 2019
    Posts:
    513
    Location:
    Germany
    There are a lot of vulture walk-trough aviaries. But I am not awaer of any andean condor walk trough aviaries. They don't seem to be particualr agrassive, and with their gigantic size it would be a cool idea to see them fly in person
     
  8. Jarne

    Jarne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    31 May 2020
    Posts:
    840
    Location:
    Belgium
    They have Andean Condors in the South American walk-through aviary at Doué-la-fontaine.
     
    Haliaeetus and Mr Gharial like this.
  9. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    13 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    23,440
    Location:
    New Zealand
    South Lakes had a walk-through aviary with various New World vultures, including condor.
     
    JigerofLemuria and Mr Gharial like this.
  10. Platypusboy

    Platypusboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2 Oct 2021
    Posts:
    712
    Location:
    Sadly nowhere near a platypus
    Is it safe to keep grouse in a large walkthrough aviary?
     
  11. Mr Gharial

    Mr Gharial Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2020
    Posts:
    2,335
    Location:
    Apeldoorn
    I think it would be possible with the right setup. Grouse are more territorial than most other birds, so as long as there's a large area not interrupted by path it should be fine
     
    Platypusboy likes this.
  12. Jarne

    Jarne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    31 May 2020
    Posts:
    840
    Location:
    Belgium
    Which species do you have in mind? Grouse sensu lato is quite an extensive group, with birds I wouldn’t want to mess with and birds that I’ve almost stepped on in the wild because they were so inconspicuous and shy.
     
    Platypusboy and Mr Gharial like this.
  13. Platypusboy

    Platypusboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2 Oct 2021
    Posts:
    712
    Location:
    Sadly nowhere near a platypus
    I was thinking the Siberian grouse but I don't know how much information is available since it is hardly ever kept in captivity (I'm designing a Siberian aviary).
     
  14. Mr Gharial

    Mr Gharial Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2020
    Posts:
    2,335
    Location:
    Apeldoorn
    Maybe a black grouse (Lyrurus tetrix) would be a more realistic replacement, seeing that they're kept in a lot more zoos
     
    Platypusboy likes this.
  15. Jarne

    Jarne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    31 May 2020
    Posts:
    840
    Location:
    Belgium
    If I would follow my gut-feeling, I think they could be considered safe to keep in the same aviary as visitors as they are not that huge (comparable to argus pheasants perhaps, which are kept in walk-throughs)
     
    Platypusboy and Mr Gharial like this.
  16. Mr Gharial

    Mr Gharial Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2020
    Posts:
    2,335
    Location:
    Apeldoorn
    I'm wondering about African monkeys in walkthrough exhibits.

    I know of Hamlyn's monkeys in Doue La Fontaine and Northern talapoin and Barbary Macaque in Apenheul. But have Colobus monkeys ever been held in a walkthrough?

    Also: Just general monkey walkthroughs? Lemurs and Squirrel / Capuchin monkeys are common, and Callitrichids / New world monkeys in general are seen quite a few times. But does anyone know of any particularly interesting ones?
     
    JigerofLemuria and Haliaeetus like this.
  17. MennoPebesma

    MennoPebesma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    21 Jun 2020
    Posts:
    1,300
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Yes, London Zoo recently opened a walk-through enclosure for colobus monkeys. And the new area in the Apenheul will feature free-roaming King colobus monkeys. As far as I know, there are some other zoos that also have walk-through enclosures for colobus monkeys.

    The first thing that comes to mind is the walk-through enclosure with Hanuman langurs at the Apenheul.
     
    BenFoxster and Mr Gharial like this.
  18. Van Beal

    Van Beal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25 Aug 2022
    Posts:
    611
    Location:
    Kingston, Ontario, Canada
    I’m just curious as to whether a walkthrough with tree-kangaroo would work or if the kangaroo would be distressed by the people walking through?
     
    BenFoxster likes this.
  19. Mr Gharial

    Mr Gharial Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2020
    Posts:
    2,335
    Location:
    Apeldoorn
    I believe they have this in Tierpark Berlin with little issue
     
  20. Van Beal

    Van Beal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25 Aug 2022
    Posts:
    611
    Location:
    Kingston, Ontario, Canada
    Okay. Cool information to know.