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Where do the Deer & Antelope Play?: A Look at America's Ungulate Populations

Discussion in 'North America - General' started by ThylacineAlive, 22 Aug 2020.

  1. Great Argus

    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Generic giraffe: Sacramento, San Francisco, Wildlife Safari, I believe also Oregon Zoo, Fresno Chaffee Zoo, and Woodland Park. (I know both have giraffe, I think I'm remembering subspecies right.)

    Masai Giraffe: Sacramento Zoo

    Okapi: Sacramento Zoo

    For Okapi, there is a thread on the site somewhere that has a map showing worldwide holdings, including numbers and facilities. It is not quite up to date, but between the map and that thread you should just about have Okapi done.

    EDIT: Can't find the thread, but did find the link.
    " there is already a complete world map, if you click on each zoo you get the current stock:
    It's an Okapi World - Google My Maps "
     
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  2. ThylacineAlive

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    From photos it does appear that Timbavati has at least one Masai Giraffe mixed with a generic. Weird, that.

    Most zoos claim their giraffes are either pure Rothschild's or Reticulated. The vast majority of these claims are wrong and are simply based on which phenotype the animal has. A few SDZSP animals and a handful of males sent from there to other zoos (B. Bryan Preserve and Audubon Species Survival Center; the Audubon animals I believe were sent to locations unknown, though) are the only confirmed ones at this time.

    This is a good question and one I'm not entirely sure on yet. It will be pretty impossible to list out all private collections, however I think it may be good to include those which notably work with the AZA for the timebeing when possible.

    Thank you! That will be very useful!

    I'll be looking at/linking other relevant ungulate threads in the future as well.

    ~Thylo
     
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    Wood Bison (breeding herd) at the Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center in Portage, Alaska.
     
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    Amazed to see these wild cattle (Banteng and Cape Buffalo) reduced to just two holders each. I believe both the Bronx Zoo and the Catskills Game Farm had Banteng in the 1980’s. San Antonio Zoo had Cape Buffalo in the 1980’s a well.
     
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  5. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    They have more holders, I'm just not sure who they are yet. I'll add them in as I learn more about their whereabouts. For example, I found out Safari Wilderness in Florida keeps the buffalo so that will be listed as a third holder when I update the list next.

    ~Thylo
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Have you thought about adding Canada holdings as really being part of north America?
     
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    There's definitely more for Banteng, they're one of the species Source Population Alliance is working with.
     
  8. Great Argus

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    Given his base figures were from AZA numbers and thus including Canadian zoos with AZA accreditation, they are potentially included. Given the thread is posted under United States forum though perhaps not? We'll have to get clarification from @ThylacineAlive on the subject.
     
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    Ranches are going to be impossible to get accurate numbers as inventory changes almost daily with some species.
     
  10. Xenarthra

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    Fresno currently has 2.1 generic giraffe (and the female is 26), and also has 1.2 Masai as of this year, actually.

    They had a group of 2.2 generics and 0.1 Masai for a while, with the older of the generic bulls neutered and the Masai on contraception I believe. Then this year was busy: they imported a 2 year old Masai bull from The Wilds in February 2020, lost one of the elderly generic females (26 as well) in May, and most recently imported a young female Masai from Phoenix this past June/July. So it's looking like they might choose to focus on breeding Masai, at least for now.

    They're my mom's favorite, so taking her to visit the Fresno herd for feeding and photos is a regular thing. I've been kept up to date on them via their biggest fan for years :D
     
  11. nczoofan

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    Banteng at Zoo Miami and Lee Richardson Zoo.

    Gaur at Bayou Wildlife Park.

    North Carolina Zoo has impure bison.

    Also isn’t living treasures in PA?
     
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    Banteng is also kept by Saint Louis.

    More holders for impure bison (here I'm assuming every bison I've seen in a zoo that isn't specified as pure isn't):
    Henry Vilas
    NEW
    The Wilds
    Columbus
    Wildwood Zoo
    Animal Haven Zoo
    Glacier Ridge Animal Farm
    Manitowoc Lincoln Park
    MacKensie Center
    Brookfield
    Como Park
    Lone Elk Park
    Doc's Harley-Davidson
    Shalom Wildlife Zoo
    Detroit
     
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    So at first I was thinking no for simplicity's sake, but now I'm thinking we should. They are apart of North America, some zoos do participate in AZA programs, and are often hindered by the same laws and regulations placed onto ungulates as US zoos are. I believe some of the Cervus deer figures I gave at the beginning of this thread include Canadian holdings as well. I know Toronto has Masai Giraffe so that would be a good addition.

    I'd imagine Canada has a fair few Wood Bison holdings? I have Toronto down already.

    Yes I know, I think the aim here is just to get as close to an accurate look at what species are kept in North America and where. Population figures will always be limited unfortunately.

    Interesting, had no idea at Bayou! Wonder how many they keep?

    Yes, the two LTs are in PA, that was my mistake. I can't really find info on their supposed Gaur either.

    This is probably the best assumption, yes. I'm not too positive there even are any pure holders outside of the 5 listed.

    ~Thylo
     
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    As a general update for what I have right now:

    Giraffes
    Masai Giraffe (20 holders)
    USA-
    Brevard Zoo
    Cincinnati Zoo & Botanical Garden
    Columbus Zoo & Aquarium
    Franklin Park Zoo
    Fresno Chaffee Zoo
    Houston Zoo
    Los Angeles Zoo & Botanical Gardens
    Metro Richmond Zoo
    Nashville Zoo
    Racine Zoo
    Roger Williams Park Zoo
    Sacramento Zoo
    Safari West
    San Diego Zoo
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Santa Barbara Zoo
    The Wilds
    Timbavati Wildlife Park
    Toledo Zoo

    Canada-
    Toronto Zoo

    Rothschild's/Nubian Giraffe (suspected) (3 holders)
    Audubon Zoo
    B. Bryan Preserve
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park

    Giraffe (sensu lato) (51 holders)
    Audubon Species Survival Center
    Audubon Zoo
    Bayou Wildlife Zoo
    Binder Park Zoo
    Brookfield Zoo
    Bronx Zoo
    Central Florida Zoo
    Chattanooga Zoo
    Cheyenne Mountain Zoo
    Columbus Zoo & Aquarium
    Como Park Zoo
    Dallas Zoo
    Denver Zoo
    Detroit Zoo
    Disney's Animal Kingdom
    Fort Worth Zoo
    Fresno Chaffee Zoo
    Giraffe Ranch
    Gladys Porter Zoo
    Henry Vilas Zoo
    Hogle Zoo
    Indianapolis Zoo
    Lincoln Park Zoo
    Living Desert Zoo & Gardens
    Living Treasures Wild Animal Park (Moraine)
    Metro Richmond Zoo
    Milwaukee Zoo
    Natural Bridge Wildlife Ranch
    NEW Zoo & Adventure Park
    North Carolina Zoo
    Oakland Zoo
    Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo
    Oregon Zoo
    Philadelphia Zoo
    Riverbanks Zoo & Garden
    Sacramento Zoo
    Safari West
    St. Louis Zoo
    San Antonio Zoo
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    San Francisco Zoo
    Southwicks Zoo
    Tanganyika Wildlife Park
    The Wilds
    Timbavati Wildlife Park
    Topeka Zoo
    Tulsa Zoo
    Wildlife Safari
    Woodland Park Zoo
    Zoo Atlanta
    Zoo Tampa

    Okapi (29 holders)
    Audubon Special Survival Center
    Brookfield Zoo
    Bronx Zoo
    Cheyenne Mountain Zoo
    Cincinnati Zoo & Botanical Garden
    Columbus Zoo & Aquarium
    Dallas Zoo
    Denver Zoo
    Disney’s Animal Kingdom
    Houston Zoo
    Jacksonville Zoo
    Los Angeles Zoo & Botanical Garden
    Maryland Zoo
    Memphis Zoo
    Nashville Zoo
    Oklahoma City Zoo
    Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo
    Potawatomi Zoo
    Roosevelt Park Zoo
    Sacramento Zoo
    St. Louis Zoo
    San Antonio Zoo
    San Diego Zoo
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Sedgwick County Zoo
    Tanganyika Wildlife Park
    White Oak Conservation Center
    Zoo Miami
    Zoo Tampa

    ~Thylo
     
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  15. Ituri

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    Cape Buffalo are present at Safari West in Sonoma, CA
     
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    Wild Cattle
    American Bison (pure) (5 holders)
    Bronx Zoo
    Minnesota Zoo
    Oakland Zoo
    Oklahoma City Zoo
    Sedgwick County Zoo

    American Bison (impure) (25 holders)
    Action Wildlife
    Animal Haven Zoo
    Bronx Zoo
    Brookfield Zoo
    Columbus Zoo & Aquarium
    Como Park Zoo
    Detroit Zoo
    Doc’s Zoo
    Glacier Ridge Animal Farm
    Henry Vilas Zoo
    Living Treasures Wild Animal Park (Jones Mills)
    Lincoln Park Zoo (Manitowoc)
    Natural Bridge Wildlife Ranch
    MacKenzie Center
    Metro Richmond Zoo
    NEW Zoo & Adventure Park
    North Carolina Zoo
    Queens Zoo
    Roger Williams Park Zoo
    Rosamond Gifford Zoo
    Shalom Wildlife Sanctuary
    Space Farms Zoo & Museums
    Wildlife Safari
    Wildlife World Zoo
    Wildwood Zoo

    Wood Bison (2 holders)
    USA-
    Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center

    Canada-
    Toronto Zoo

    Lowland Anoa (8 holders)
    Fort Worth Zoo
    Los Angeles Zoo & Botanical Garden
    Micanopy Zoological Preserve
    Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium
    Rum Creek Ranch
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Timbavati Wildlife Park
    Zoo Tampa

    Javan Banteng (6 holders)
    Lee Richardson Zoo
    Rum Creek Ranch
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    St. Louis Zoo
    The Wilds
    Zoo Miami

    Gaur (7 holders)
    Bayou Wildlife Park
    Bronx Zoo
    Gladys Porter Zoo
    Lee G. Simmons Wildlife Safari Park
    Living Treasures Wild Animal Park (Moraine)
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Zoo Miami

    Cape Buffalo (4 holders)
    Denver Zoo
    Safari West
    Safari Wilderness
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park

    African Forest Buffalo (1 holder?)
    Micanopy Zoological Preserve?

    ~Thylo
     
  17. nczoofan

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    @ThylacineAlive USDA reported 4 gaur this year at Bayou Wildlife Park.
     
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  18. Ituri

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    Calgary Zoo has Wood Bison
     
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    The Kansas City Zoo also holds Masai Giraffe
     
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    I’m pretty sure buttonwood has bison, Idk if they are pure though
     
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