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Discussion in 'North America - General' started by Coelacanth18, 26 Oct 2016.

  1. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I think getting kicked out of the EAZA holds less weight than being kicked out of the AZA. Some of Europe's largest and most well-known collections are outside of the EAZA, such as the Berlins. I know a good few people on here thought that the trend of certain major zoos like Pittsburgh leaving the AZA would be the beginning of the end of taking them so seriously but that does not seem to be the case.

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    A lot of the species recommended by the Bat TAG were actually *over* their targets for population size, as overcrowding is currently (and has historically been) an issue for small and medium-sized bats like straw-colored fruit bats, Egyptian rousettes, Seba's fruit bats and vampire bats. The 2015 RCP and the initiation of several formal breeding programs was a huge step forward in bat management for AZA zoos, as before it was based more on institutional whim and there was a lot of mismanagement, including inbreeding, overcrowding, castration of males to control population growth, and shuffling off of surplus to roadside zoos and private buyers. I hope that these practices will now begin falling by the wayside.

    To be fair, sustainability has a lot to do with the type of animal. Since most bats are social and can live in large groups, a species only needs to be held by a few zoos to sustain itself. On the other hand, most zoos will only hold two or three individual bears max, which means a lot more holding institutions need to be on board to keep a program afloat.
     
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    @Coelacanth18 I agree that the selling of surplus animals to roadside zoos in often a bad idea, but I think the AZA (and EAZA for that matter) needs to get over themselves when it comes to working with private keepers. I can think of more than one occasion where a program has been hindered or even failed due to the AZA's refusal to work with the private sector over the years for no other reason than them being a private keeper. This seems to thankfully be changing a little bit, at least with ungulates anyway.

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    While I agree with your overall point, I'm pretty sure the Berlins are in the EAZA? They are listed as full members on the EAZA website.

    Probably because that decision didn't turn out well for Pittsburgh. They lost their sea turtle rehab program, a grant for a new playground, and quite a few of their animals and breeding opportunities because of their decision to leave. I never expected other zoos to follow suit because I knew that's how it would go down, but I think some were hopeful that they would lead a resistance against the AZA and its supposed overreach of power.
     
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    If they are in the AZA that's a more recent change then. They certainly weren't whenever the New Guinea Echidnas came in.

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    Lubee Bat Conservancy imported and still holds the species.
    Though it would not be illegal in terms of international borders, local Marianas authorities have refused to allow the collection of the animals, instead showing strong preference towards a conservation center in the islands themselves.
    When they are on exhibit, they are hard to find. I usually have the best luck looking into the exhibit from the bridge in front of the waterfall, after the herp exhibits but before entering the walkthrough portion.
    It is usually for a health issue of some sort.
    The bats at NAIB are not reproductive, because they are an all-male group. Lubee holds a mixed sex group of around 15 individuals, but they have been nonbreeding for quite some time. They stopped breeding the species due to lack of interest by AZA, and lack of founders from Australia.
     
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    I actually did not know the Berlins were not in EAZA. Wow that would be like San diego or the Bronx not belonging to the AZA. Pittsburgh leaving was an interesting decision, yet the zoo has seemed to not be doing the best since leaving. With poorly designed-small habitats for tropical species, losing its ability to be a part of several ssp’s, and lost grant funding. Also they choose to make a stand about an unsafe management practice for elephants, and yet decided it was worth it? Angers me a lot given that the NC zoo has the complete opposite management program, which essentially tries to remove as a docent put it “90% of interaction between keeper and animal. Basically let the elephants be elephants.”
     
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    I do agree with you in principle on that, and I don't agree with blanket statements regarding the quality of non-AZA zoos. In this particular case, I've read about bats from AZA facilities ending up in very poor roadside zoos and in the pet trade, where they definitely should not be regardless of conditions. I think it should really be determined on a case-by-case basis. As it stands, many non-AZA zoos and their animals participate in SSPs, although from what I know they often do not get breeding recommendations and are commonly used to receive surplus animals from the AZA population.
     
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    I agree. Although several tags are more prone to working with the private sector. From what I know waterfowl and turtles come to mind. I hate the equivalence of Non AZA to roadside zoo. That would put say sylvan heights bird park, which has led several breeding programs in the same category as places whos existance is animal cruelty.
     
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    Yes in the case of animals ending up in the pet trade or in bad zoos that is not ok. Glad to hear there is some cooperation with non-AZA facilities, even if it is just surplus animals.

    To be clear, I didn't mean to suggest non-AZA zoos were all bad roadside zoos. There are several great ones, like Sylvan

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    An update: the new nocturnal exhibit *did* open at Audubon Zoo this past spring and is home to common vampire bats and Seba's short-tailed bats.
     
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    Capron park zoo has 1 remaining Indian flying fox and it is off-exhibit until the new Rainforest re-opens. Also there are going to be Rodriguez fruit bat in the new rainforest exhibit.
     
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    Can anyone verify if there is still 1 specimen at Phoenix?
     
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    Quick question. Did vampire bats were ever mixed with other species in any collection (other bat species or other animal)?
     
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    Contacted Phoenix Zoo today and they confirmed that unfortunately this animal has passed away.
     
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    Thanks for confirming @Giant Eland.

    I was just thinking today that I should kick this thread back into gear and get some up-to-date lists going.
     
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    Updated list based on all of the input given in this thread. This thread is definitely not complete: I already know there are a few missing on here, and likely some outdated listings as well. Updates and background research is encouraged; I will also work on this.

    I've also decided to include all non-AZA zoos in the US and Canada, so feel free to include information from zoos previously not considered. As for insectivorous bats, I'm only going to list them if the zoo has a confirmed breeding group; rehab individuals cycle in and out too often for us to keep an accurate track.

    Rodrigues flying fox, Pteropus rodricensis
    Akron Zoo
    Bronx Zoo
    Brookfield Zoo
    Central Park Zoo
    Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
    Disney’s Animal Kingdom
    Lincoln Children's Zoo
    Louisville Zoo
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    Moody Gardens
    Oregon Zoo
    Philadelphia Zoo
    Prospect Park Zoo
    Pueblo Zoo,
    Riverbanks Zoo
    San Diego Safari Park

    Large/Malayan flying fox, Pteropus vampyrus
    Busch Gardens Tampa
    Columbus Zoo
    Disney's Animal Kingdom
    Lowry Park Zoo
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    National Aviary in Pittsburgh
    Oakland Zoo

    Indian flying fox, Pteropus giganteus
    Baton Rouge Zoo
    Boise Zoo
    Bronx Zoo
    Cincinnati Zoo
    Houston Zoo
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    Metro Richmond Zoo
    Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo
    Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium
    Sedgwick County Zoo
    Topeka Zoo
    Woodland Park Zoo

    Island flying fox, Pteropus hypomelanus
    Brevard Zoo
    El Paso Zoo
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    Oakland Zoo
    Turtle Back Zoo

    Little golden-mantled flying fox, Pteropus pumilus
    Columbus Zoo
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo

    Grey-headed flying fox, Pteropus poliocephalus
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    National Aquarium in Baltimore

    Spectacled Flying Fox Pteropus conspicillatus
    Lubee Bat Conservancy

    Straw-colored fruit bat, Eidolon helvum
    Akron Zoo
    Brevard Zoo
    Bronx Zoo
    Busch Gardens Tampa
    Calgary Zoo
    Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
    Elmwood Park Zoo
    Franklin Park Zoo
    Hogle Zoo
    Houston Zoo
    Jacksonville Zoo
    Kansas City Zoo
    Lake Superior Zoo
    Lincoln Park Zoo
    Lowry Park Zoo
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    Metro Richmond Zoo
    Milwaukee County Zoo
    Minnesota Zoo,
    Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo
    Oregon Zoo
    Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium
    Racine Zoo
    Sacramento Zoo
    Saint Paul's Como Zoo
    Toronto Zoo
    Tulsa Zoo

    Egyptian fruit bat, Rousettus aegyptiacus
    Blank Park Zoo
    Brookfield Zoo
    Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
    Lincoln Park Zoo
    Lubee Bat Conservancy
    Memphis Zoo
    Minnesota Zoo
    Moody Gardens
    Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo
    Oregon Zoo
    Rosamond Gifford Zoo
    Timbavati Wildlife Park
    Toronto Zoo

    Ruwenzori long-haired fruit bat, Rousettus lanosus
    Boise Zoo
    Franklin Park Zoo
    Lincoln Children's Zoo
    Milwaukee County Zoo
    Minnesota Zoo
    Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo

    Common vampire bat, Desmodus rotundus
    Audubon Zoo
    Buffalo Zoo
    Cincinnati Zoo
    Connecticut's Beardsley Zoo
    Dallas World Aquarium
    Denver Zoo
    Louisville Zoo
    Milwaukee County Zoo
    North American Wildlife Park (Hershey, PA)
    North Carolina Zoo
    Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo
    Philadelphia Zoo
    Texas State Aquarium

    Greater bulldog bat, Noctilio leporinus
    Memphis Zoo
    Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo

    Greater spear-nosed bat, Phyllostomus hastatus
    Assiboine Park Zoo
    Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo
    Peoria Zoo

    Pale spear-nosed bat, Phyllostomus discolor
    Miami Zoo

    Pallas's long-tongued bat, Glossophaga soricina
    Houston Zoo
    Mesker Park Zoo
    Montreal Biodome
    Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo

    Lesser long-tongued bat, Leptonycteris yerbabuenae
    Fort Worth Zoo

    Jamaican fruit bat, Artibeus jamaicensis
    Calgary Zoo
    Cameron Park Zoo
    Edmonton Valley Zoo
    Houston Zoo
    Miami Zoo
    Potawatomi Zoo
    Roger Williams Park Zoo

    Seba's short-tailed fruit bat, Carollia perspicillata
    Akron Zoo
    Audubon Zoo
    Busch Gardens Tampa
    Catoctin Zoo
    Central Park Zoo
    Dallas World Aquarium
    Denver Zoo
    Elmwood Park Zoo
    Gladys Porter Zoo
    Henry Vilas Zoo
    Houston Zoo
    Jacksonville Zoo
    Lake Superior Zoo
    Lincoln Children's Zoo
    Maryland Zoo in Baltimore
    Montreal Biodome
    Miami Zoo
    Moody Gardens
    Nashville Zoo
    Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo
    Pittsburgh Zoo
    Potter Park Zoo
    Rolling Hills Zoo
    San Antonio Zoo
    Staten Island Zoo
    Stone Zoo
    Tulsa Zoo
     
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    Also kept by Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary.
     
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    Thanks @birdsandbats.

    Looks like Tulsa and Wildlife World Zoo also have Jamaican fruit bat. Also Egyptian Fruit Bat at Lupa and GarLyn zoos.

    Ellen Trout and Naples Zoo might have Jamaican... would be nice to get confirmation on that but I don't know if anyone on the site has been to those recently. And a surprise: Vancouver Aquarium.

    Some facility called the Ontario Specialized Species Center has Common Vampire, Jamaican and Egyptian.

    Memphis should hold Seba's.

    Would also be great to get confirmation on whether Little Rock still holds Vampire.

    Still feel like I'm missing several New World fruit bat facilities...
     
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    In Canada for Jamaican fruit bat, Calgary no longer holds the species. Vancouver Aquarium, Montreal Biodome, and I'm certain at least 1-2 other holders have the species as well.

    Assiniboine has Sebas Short Tailed Bat

    Bird Kingdom has Egyptian Fruit Bat

    African Lion Safari has a flying fox of some species or another...

    Bear Creek Sanctuary has a colony of Ruwenzori Long Haired Bats! as well. Where they managed to acquire them from within Canada, I have absolutely no clue.