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ZooChat Challenge Europe 2018

Discussion in 'Challenges, Quizzes, Competitions & Games' started by Vision, 31 Dec 2017.

  1. Vision

    Vision Well-Known Member

    29 Aug 2015
    Antwerp, Belgium
    Welcome, everybody! Once again we're stuck with a bit of an overlap in geographical range with the UK Zoochat Challenge, but we won't let that stop us. While @Kevin and I do really like @Shorts' concept of a highly diverse, fixed animal checklist, we don't think it's necessary to have the same challenge twice. The UK is a part of Europe after all, and that could potentially create for a bit of a mix-up with numbers in case a UK member were to participate in both challenges. Thus, we figured a traditional taxonomic challenge for the entirety of Europe would still be interesting and relevant.

    This year's challenge will focus on the different fowl species of the world, officially called Galloanserae; a large group of species now down to just Anseriformes and Galliformes, but still incredibly diverse. All kinds of ducks, geese, swans, screamers, megapodes, cracids, guineafowl, quails and pheasants are this year's focus. Visits to a few key places should crank up your lists quite a bit, but since we combined both very different families, I don't believe any one collection could automatically grant anyone the winning ticket. Another reason this group of birds was chosen is because usually I, and I think perhaps some other members as well, tend to not pay too much attention to these birds (mainly the ducks go unnoticed for me), whereas every single one of them is unique and interesting, and certainly deserving of more attention.

    I'll be keeping this challenge to a species level to avoid any confusion and/or debates. Since we're listing birds and there are a lot of useful bird lists, I believe it's the most logical to use them; There's a lot of conflict about which ones are better so I'll leave for everybody individually to decide, but it's important you stay consistent! No using IOC to take advantage of one split, and Clements to take advantage of another.

    This challenge of course also has rules, with credits to Shorts:
    1. You have to actually see the animal, even if just for a second. You don't score if you visit a collection but don't see the animal (harsh, but fair);
    2. Proof via photographs is not required, your word is your bond;
    3. You have to see the animal via normal public access (i.e. not including zookeeper for the day or photography days behind the scenes) during normal public opening hours (i.e. no scoring because you know the keeper and can get access before/after hours). Basically the species has to be seen as Joe Public would;
    4. Only collections located in what is geographically Europe will count in this challenge (including Iceland, the UK, Ireland, the Mediterranean islands, but excluding Georgia, Russia, Azerbaijan and Turkey to avoid conflicts about what is and isn't 'Europe.')
    5. Report/update your progress on this thread as you go along;
    6. The winner will be deemed to be the person(s) who's seen the most at 31st December 2018;
    7. Many zoos have freeroaming waterfowl species on their grounds, and we understand that this might cause for some confusion about which ones are captive and which ones aren't. It's hard for us to really make a clear rule about this, so we think it's best to just use your own judgment; exotic species that are obviously clipped/pinioned and/or ringed would count, whereas a native species that still seems capable of flight and has no trace of a ring wouldn't. It's not the end of the world if a 'wild' species is accidentally counted, since sometimes it's hard to be certain. Zootierliste could help confirm any suspicions.
    8. @Kevin and my decision on any questions is final, but we're open to discussion and debate on any specific points.

    This challenge is solely for fun, sadly I won't be able to offer the winner an actual prize. Most of all, we hope everyone has a great time! ;)
    Last edited: 31 Dec 2017
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  2. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member

    10 Nov 2015
    You’re not giving very much time to go out and see any zoos :p
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  3. Vision

    Vision Well-Known Member

    29 Aug 2015
    Antwerp, Belgium
    I knew I missed something! It's fixed now. :D
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  4. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member

    16 May 2010
    Wilds of Northumberland
    I won this one when it was one of Thylo's worldwide challenges, largely thanks to the fact I visited Tierpark Berlin and its excellent galliform collection that year :p I doubt I will do nearly as well this time!
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  5. TheGerenuk

    TheGerenuk Well-Known Member

    8 Sep 2017
    Brampton, Ontario, Canada
    Well, I'm not visiting Europe this year, so I'm out.
  6. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member

    18 Mar 2014
    So, not that ZTL is a reputable site at the best of times, we could say that any species listed in the fowls or waterfowls on there would count for this challenge?
  7. LaughingDove

    LaughingDove Well-Known Member

    16 May 2014
    When you change the setting to show scientific names, those two come up as Galliformes and Anseriformes which are the two orders for this challenge.

    I really like the choice of challenge this year, it's a nice broad topic that has the potential for lots of nice species and very high lists. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be visiting very many European zoos this year but it's still a nice, fun topic. :p
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  8. MagpieGoose

    MagpieGoose Well-Known Member

    29 Mar 2015
    Chester Zoo- 01/01/2017
    1) Eastern Crested Guineafowl (Guttera pucherani)
    2) African White-backed Duck (Thalassornis leuconotus)
    3) Hottentot Teal (Spatula hottentota)
    4) Cape Teal (Anas capensis)
    5) Baer's Pochard (Aythya baeri)
    6) Ruddy Shelduck (Tadorna ferruginea)
    7) Comb Duck (Sarkidiornis melanotos)
    8) Red-billed Teal (Thalassornis leuconotus)
    9) Salvadori's Pheasant (Lophura inornata)
    10) Bronze-tailed Peacock-pheasant (Polyplectron chalcurum)
    11) Chestnut-bellied Partridge (Arborophila javanica)
    12) White-faced Whistling Duck (Dendrocygna viduata)
    13) White-headed Duck (Oxyura leucocephala)
    14) Smew (Mergellus albellus)
    15) Red-crested Pochard (Netta rufina)
    16) Ferruginous Duck (Aythya nyroca)
    17) White-winged Duck (Asarcornis scutulata)
    18) Great Argus (Argusianus argus)
    19) Palawan Peacock Pheasant (Polyplectron napoleonis)
    20) Roul Roul (Rollulus roulroul)
    21) Congo Peafowl (Afropavo congensis)
    22) Cabot's Tragpon (Tragopan caboti)
    23) Collared Partridge (Arborophila gingica)
    24) Vietnamese Pheasant (Lophura hatinhensis)
    25) Himalayan Monal (Lophophorus impejanus)
    26) Lady Amherst's Pheasant (Chrysolophus amherstiae)
    27) Marbled Teal (Marmaronetta angustirostris)
    26) Red-breasted Goose (Branta ruficollis)
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  9. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member

    13 Jun 2007
    not travelling
    Question: should Lophura hatinhensis be allowed to be counted, given that it is not a true species?
  10. LaughingDove

    LaughingDove Well-Known Member

    16 May 2014
    It should probably be allowed but as Lophura edwardsi I reckon. I don't think you should be allowed to count edwardsi and 'hatinhensis'.
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  11. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member

    18 Mar 2014
    First entry of the year:

    London Zoo

    1. Green peafowl (Pavo cristatus)
    2. White-winged duck (Asarcornis scutulata)
    3. Mandarin duck (Aix galericulata)
    4. Edwards’ pheasant (Lophura edwardsi)
    5. Northern helmeted curassow (Pauxi pauxi)
    6. Blue peafowl (Pavo muticus)
    7. Congo peafowl (Afropavo congensis)
    8. Roulroul (Rollulus rouloul)
    9. African pygmy goose (Nettapus auritus)
    10. Hottentot teal (Spatula hottentota)
    11. Madagascar teal (Anas bernieri)
    12. White-faced whistling duck (Dendrocygna viduata)
    13. Comb duck (Sarkidiornis melanotos)
    14. Plumed whistling duck (Dendrocygna eytoni)
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  12. Dylan

    Dylan Well-Known Member

    12 Mar 2016
    I'm visiting Washington and possibly Slimbridge so I might have a chance
  13. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member

    18 Mar 2014
    Ouwehands Dierenpark

    15. Bar-headed goose (Anser indicus)
    16. Barnacle goose (Branta leucopsis)
    17. Red-crested pochard (Netta rufina)
    18. Bahama pintail (Anas bahamensis)
    19. Wood duck (Aix sponsa)
    20. Fulvous whistling duck (Dendrocygna bicolor)
  14. Joshua

    Joshua Member

    19 May 2017
    The Netherlands, Amersfoort
    1 Black swan Cygnus atratus Zie Zoo
    2 Mandarin duck Aix galericulata Zie Zoo
    3 North American wood duck Aix sponsa Zie Zoo
    4 Red-breasted goose Branta ruficollis Zie Zoo
    5 Red-crested Pochard Netta rufina Zoo Frankfurt
    6 Barnacle goose Branta leucopsis Opel Zoo
    7 Barrow's goldeneye duck Bucephala islandica Opel Zoo
    8 Canada goose Branta canadensis Opel Zoo
    9 Common shelduck Tadorna tadorna Opel Zoo
    10 Eurasian green-winged teal Anas crecca crecca Opel Zoo
    11 Ferruginous duck Aythya nyroca Opel Zoo
    12 Garganey Spatula querquedula Opel Zoo
    13 Marbled teal Marmaronetta angustirostris Opel Zoo
    14 Northern pintail Anas acuta Opel Zoo
    15 Northern shoveler Spatula clypeata Opel Zoo
    16 Egyptian goose Alopochen aegyptiaca Opel Zoo
    17 Mallard Anas platyrhynchos platyrhynchos Opel Zoo
    18 Cheer pheasant Catreus wallichii Zie Zoo
    19 Common pheasant Phasianus colchicus Zie Zoo
    20 Golden pheasant Chrysolophus pictus Zie Zoo
    21 ndian peafowl Pavo cristatus Zie Zoo
    22 Vietnamese pheasant Lophura hatinhensis Zie Zoo
    23 Yellow-necked spurfowl Pternistis leucoscepus Opel Zoo
    24Helmeted guineafowl Numida meleagris Opel Zoo
    25 Himalayan monal Lophophorus impejanus Opel Zoo
    26 Reeves's pheasant Syrmaticus reevesii Opel Zoo
    27 Satyr tragopan Tragopan satyra Opel Zoo
    28 Crested wood partridge Rollulus rouloul Zoo Frankfurt
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  15. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member

    18 Mar 2014

    21. Black swan (Cygnus atratus)
    22. Egyptian goose (Alopochen aegyptiaca)
    23. Black-necked swan (Cygnus melancoryphus)
    24. Mute swan (Cygnus olor)
    25. Eider duck (Somateria mollissima)
    26. Great argus pheasant (Argusianus argus)
    27. Crested guineafowl (Guttera pucherani)
    28. Trumpeter swan (Cygnus buccinator)
    29. Ocellated turkey (Meleagris ocellata)
    30. Red-billed curassow (Crax blumenbachii)
    31. Palawan peacock pheasant (Polyplectron napoleonis)
    32. Southern screamer (Chauna torquata)
  16. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member

    18 Mar 2014

    33. Satyr tragopan (Tragopan satyra)
    34. Himalayan monal (Lophophorus impejanus)
  17. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member

    18 Mar 2014
    Hamerton Zoo

    35. Common shelduck (Tadorna tadorna)
    36. Great curassow (Crax rubra)
    37. Paradise shelduck (Tadorna variegata)
    38. Cape Barren goose (Cereopsis novaehollandiae)
    39. Silver pheasant (Lophura nycthemera)
    40. Vulturine guineafowl (Acryllium vulturinum)
    41. Yellow-knobbed curassow (Crax daubentoni)
  18. Dormitator

    Dormitator Well-Known Member

    23 Jul 2017
    Should be a fun challenge, let's see how it goes!

    Cotswold Wildlife Park & Gardens

    1. African pygmy goose (Nettapus auritus)
    2. Argentine shoveler (Spatula platalea)
    3. Bahama pintail (Anas bahamensis)
    4. Baikal teal (Sibirionetta formosa)
    5. Bar-headed goose (Anser indicus)
    6. Barnacle goose (Branta leucopsis)
    7. Bernier's teal (Anas bernieri)
    8. Chiloe wigeon (Mareca sibilatrix)
    9. Common eider duck (Somateria mollissima mollissima)
    10. Common goldeneye duck (Bucephala clangula clangula)
    11. Common pochard (Aythya ferina)
    12. Common shelduck (Tadorna tadorna)
    13. Coscoroba swan (Coscoroba coscoroba)
    14. Fulvous whistling duck (Dendrocygna bicolor)
    15. Hottentot teal (Spatula hottentota)
    16. Laysan duck (Anas laysanensis)
    17. Maned wood duck (Chenonetta jubata)
    18. Marbled teal (Marmaronetta angustirostris)
    19. Muscovy duck (Cairina moschata)
    20. Northern black-bellied whistling duck (Dendrocygna autumnalis fulgens)
    21. Northern pintail (Anas acuta)
    22. Old World comb duck (Sarkidiornis melanotos melanotos)
    23. Philippine duck (Anas luzonica)
    23. Red-breasted goose (Branta ruficollis)
    24. Red-crested Pochard (Netta rufina)
    25. Red-shouldered teal (Callonetta leucophrys)
    26. Tufted pochard (Aythya fuligula)
    27. Versicolor teal (Spatula versicolor )
    28. White-faced whistling duck (Dendrocygna viduata)
    29. Black curassow (Crax alector)
    30. Crested wood partridge (Rollulus rouloul)
    31. Eastern crested guineafowl (Guttera pucherani)
    32. Himalayan monal (Lophophorus impejanus)
    33. Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus)
    34. Temminck's tragopan (Tragopan temminckii)

    Slimbridge WWT

    35. Aleutian cackling goose (Branta hutchinsii leucopareia)
    36. Australian hardhead (Aythya australis)
    37. Baer’s pochard (Aythya baeri)
    38. Barrow’s goldeneye duck (Bucephala islandica)
    39. Black-backed rajah shelduck (Radjah radjah radjah)
    40. Black-headed duck (Heteronetta atricapilla)
    41. Blue-winged goose (Cyanochen cyanopterus)
    42. Bufflehead (Bucephala albeola)
    43. Canvasback (Aythya valisineria)
    44. Common goldeneye duck (Bucephala clangula clangula)
    45. Falcated teal (Mareca falcata)
    46. Ferruginous duck (Aythya nyroca)
    47. Greylag goose (Anser anser)
    48. Hawaiian goose (Branta sandvicensis)
    49. Hooded merganser (Lophodytes cucullatus)
    50. Mute swan (Cygnus olor)
    51. Northern mallard duck (Anas platyrhynchos platyrhynchos)
    52. Pacific brent goose (Branta bernicla nigricans)
    53. Patagonian Crested Duck (Lophonetta specularioides specularioides)
    54. Pink-footed goose (Anser brachyrhynchus)
    55. Rosy-billed pochard (Netta peposaca)
    56. Ruddy shelduck (Tadorna ferruginea)
    57. Smew (Mergellus albellus)
    58. Trumpeter swan (Cygnus buccinator )
    59. White-winged Duck (Asarcornis scutulata)

    Chester Zoo

    60. African white-backed duck (Thalassornis leuconotus)
    61. Cape teal (Anas capensis)
    62. Ruddy shelduck (Tadorna ferruginea)
    63. Bronze-tailed peacock-pheasant (Polyplectron chalcurum)
    64. Chestnut-bellied partridge (Arborophila javanica)
    65. Congo peafowl (Afropavo congensis)
    66. Cabot's tragopan (Tragopan caboti)
    67. Great argus (Argusianus argus argus)
    68. Vietnamese pheasant (Lophura hatinhensis)
    69. Red-billed curassow (Crax blumenbachii)
    70. White-necklaced partridge (Arborophila gingica)

    Edit - I've included Slims mallards and greylags in this, just let me know if they are not valid taxa for the purposes of the quest :)
    Last edited: 19 Jan 2018
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  19. MagpieGoose

    MagpieGoose Well-Known Member

    29 Mar 2015
    Welsh Mountain Zoo
    27) Nepal Kalij (Lophura leucomelanos)
    28) Yellow-necked Spurfowl (Pternistis leucoscepus)
    29) Ringed Teal (Callonetta leucophrys)
    30) Yellow-billed Duck (Anas undulata)
    31) Rosy-billed Pochard (Netta peposaca)
    32) Common Shelduck (Tadorna tadorna)
    33) Grey Partridge (Perdix perdix)
    34) Red-legged Partridge (Alectoris rufa)
  20. LaughingDove

    LaughingDove Well-Known Member

    16 May 2014
    This is a challenge that Warsaw Zoo is particularly good for:

    1) Radjah Shelduck Tadorna radjah
    2) Mute Swan Cygnus olor
    3) Mandarin Duck Aix galericulata
    4) Cape Teal Anas capensis
    5) White-winged Wood-duck Asarcornis scutulata
    6) Plumed Whistling Duck Dendrocygna eytoni
    7) Fulvous Whistling Duck Dendrocygna bicolor
    8) Black Swan Cygnus atratus
    9) Ruddy Shelduck Tadorna ferruginea
    10) Bar-headed Goose Anser indicus
    11) Snow Goose Anser caerulescens
    12) Barnacle Goose Branta leucopsis
    13) Cackling Goose Branta hutchinsii
    14) Golden Pheasant Chrysolophus pictus
    15) Bare-faced Currasow Crax fasciolata
    16) Grey Partridge Perdix perdix
    17) Edward's Pheasant Lophura edwardsi
    18) Cheer Pheasant Catreus wallichii
    19) Swinhoe's Pheasant Lophura swinhoii
    20) Blue Peafowl Pavo cristatus
    21) Hazel Grouse Bonasa bonasia
    22) Ruffed Grouse Bonasa umbellus
    23) Black Grouse Lyrurus tetrix
    24) Sri Lankan Junglefowl Gallus lafayettii
    25) White-necklaced Partridge Arborophila gingica
    26) Siamese Fireback Lophura diardi
    27) Congo Peafowl Afropavo congensis
    28) Vulturine Guineafowl Acryllium vulturinum
    29) Roul-roul Partridge Rollulus rouloul
    30) Ringed Teal Callonetta leucophrys
    31) Madagascan Teal Anas bernieri
    32) Brazilian Teal Anas brasiliensis
    33) Hottentot Teal Anas hottentota
    34) Capercaille Tetrao urogallus
    35) Kalij Pheasant Lophura leucomelanos
    36) Elliot's Pheasant Lophura ellioti
    37) Himalayan Monal Lophophorus impejanus
    38) White Eared-pheasant Crossoptilon crossoptilon
    39) Lady Amherst's Pheasant Chrysolophus amherstiae
    40) Reeves' Pheasant Syrmaticus reevesii
    41) Silver Pheasant Lophura nycthemera
    42) Carolina Wood Duck Aix sponsa
    43) Baer's Pochard Aythya baeri
    44) Eurasian Teal Anas crecca
    45) Tufted Duck Aythya fuligula
    46) Eurasian Wigeon Mareca penelope
    47) European Pochard Aythya ferina
    48) Red-crested Pochard Netta rufina
    49) Ferruginous Duck Aythya nyroca
    50) Mallard Anas platyrhynchos
    51) European Quail Coturnix coturnix
    52) Chinese Painted Quail Synoicus chinensis

    And there are a few more species that I should be able to add when they come back on show in summer.

    I've got quite a lot of travelling planned for this year but none of it is in Europe so I may not get to another European Zoo until possibly September.