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ZooChat Cup Group D2: Cologne vs Zurich

Discussion in 'ZooChat Cup' started by CGSwans, 16 Dec 2019.

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Cologne vs Zurich

Poll closed 18 Dec 2019.
  1. Cologne 3-0 Zurich

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  2. Cologne 2-1 Zurich

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  3. Zurich 2-1 Cologne

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  4. Zurich 3-0 Cologne

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  1. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Somebody’s got to beat Zurich at some point in this tournament, right? So far it’s accounted for Antwerp, Leipzig, Bronx and San Diego. Now Cologne takes its best shot with South and Central America.
     
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  2. amur leopard

    amur leopard Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    To begin with, it is great to see you back! Hope the wedding and the speech went well and you have a great break from out pestering :)

    And I have a feeling Zurich will win this one too :)

    Koln species list:


    Capybara
    Eastern pygmy marmoset
    Giant anteater
    Golden lion tamarin
    Golden-handed tamarin
    Patagonian mara
    Red-bellied tamarin
    South American tapir
    Southern pudu
    Venezuelan black howler
    Weddell's saddle-backed tamarin
    Western pygmy marmoset
    Yellow breasted capuchin

    Zurich species list:

    Bearded emperor tamarin
    Bolivian squirrel monkey
    Capybara
    Giant anteater
    Golden lion tamarin
    Guanaco
    Linnaeus' two toed sloth
    Plains viscacha
    South American coati
    South American tapir
    Southern tamandua
    Spectacled bear
    St Vincent agouti
    Vicuna
    Western pygmy marmoset
    White faced saki
    Yellow-breasted capuchin

    That is 17-13 in favour of Zurich in mammals. However, I think Cologne probably defeats it in Birds due to their extensive waterfowl collection.
     
  3. antonmuster

    antonmuster Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Zurich has been rather lucky with these last two draws. In the current category, it has three exceptional areas/enclosures: The 'Sangay' spectacled bear and coati enclosure, the pantanal area, and the exotarium (which is predominantly focussed on South American species). In addition, there is a full set of South American camelids (plus Darwin's rhea) in the top-left section of the zoo, in appropriate though unspectacular enclosures.

    Cologne, if I remember correctly, has some nice South American bits and pieces throughout the zoo - but nothing comparably memorable as the three above-mentioned areas in Zurich.
     
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  4. antonmuster

    antonmuster Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    The spectacled bear and coati enclosure was presented e.g. here:

     
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  5. antonmuster

    antonmuster Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Pantanal

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    Ranger's hut outlook on monkey islands panorama

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    Capybara

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    Golden-bellied capuchin island 2 panorama

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    Flamingo

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    tapir, capibara, anteater & friends enclosure: Section 3, viewpoint 1 panorama

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    tapir, capibara, anteater & friends enclosure: Main section, viewpoint 1 panorama

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    Capuchin

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    Black-capped squirrel monkey house, indoor holding panorama

    ...indoor housing for tapir, capybara, and anteater is in the exotarium and viewable to the public: A line of fairly spaceous, adequately functional stables (no pictures in the gallery).

    The entire ca 7'500 m2 Pantanal area of the zoo is scheduled to be covered with a large aviary until 2023 - see
     
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  6. antonmuster

    antonmuster Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Exotarium & Aquarium

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    Floor-level visitor corridor

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    Terrarium subsection

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    Free flight hall (with ca. 20 South American bird species)

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    Scarlett ibis aviary

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    Golden lion tamarin ground floor viewpoint

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    Golden lion tamarin upstairs viewpoint

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    Emperor tamarin

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    Ground level viewpoint of agouti/motmot/white faced saki enclosure

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    Upstairs viewpoint of agouti/motmot/white faced saki enclosure

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    Burrowing owl and plains viscacha (one of two interconnected enclosures)

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    Dendrobate terrarium (there is a fairly large collection of poison dart frogs in the exotarium)

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    Yellow anaconda
     
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    Exotarium animals (selection)

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    Electric eel

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    Piranha

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    Ranitomeya reticulata

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    Atelopus hoogmoedi nassaui

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    Two-toed sloth

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    Green iguana

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    White-faced saki

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    Channel-billed toucan

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    Southern tamandua
     
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  8. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Anyone want to make an argument for Cologne before I vote 3-0 Zurich?

    ~Thylo
     
  9. lintworm

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    Cologne is pretty unlucky that their S-American house will only be ready in 2 years and by then the number of species on-show would increase clearly.

    The current S-American section is rather small with a large Tapir + Capybara paddock and another spacious and well-landscaped complex with Anteater and Pudu. Most S-American monkeys are in temporary holdings, which are somewhat ugly, but not bad.

    Additionally to that there are large numbers of waterfowl in well-landscaped ponds / enclosures throughout the zoo. In the bird complex there are a view moderately sized aviaries with S-American species, mostly rather commong like Roseate spoonbill, Boat-billed heron & Toco toucan, but also Green oropendola.

    The Aquarium - Terrarium has some S-American freshwater tanks (certainly more and of equal quality as the 2 in Zurich) and it must have quite some reptiles and amphibians, but I cannot clearly remember which species are currently on show.

    Based on bird, reptile, amphibian and fish collection Cologne would surely win. But it does not have any real stand-out enclosures and the Bear enclosure in Zurich is a thing of beauty. The Pantanal part in Zurich is a bit boring (still good, but Zurich has a very high level...) and non-flying Macaws are a minus point for me, though I am sure they are a left-over of earlier times. The Exotarium in Zuerich is very interesting, especially collection-wise. I am not a big fan of the Callichthrid and Tamandua enclosures there, but the free-flight makes up for a lot.
     
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  10. Malawi

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    Whenever I see photo from Zürich, they seem to be in their own exhibitry class.
     
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  11. pipaluk

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    Only the mammal list has been posted so far and the only really unusual species held are Weddell's Tamarin & Red Howler for Cologne which possibly trump the Plains Viscacha at Zurich, though Zurich have better looking exhibits. I am voting 2-1 Zurich for now until the species lists are posted for birds & herps.
     
  12. ThylacineAlive

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    Yeah but based on those exhibits Zurich looks fantastic with a great species list. I know there's still a lot of Cologne information missing, which is why I asked before I vote.

    ~Thylo
     
  13. FunkyGibbon

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    When I saw this category I thought the following:

    Zurich has absolutely the best South American area I have ever seen. (without even considering the Exotarium)

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    It's a pity Cologne is currently building an SA House.

    Thus my 3-0 to Zurich.
     
  14. pipaluk

    pipaluk Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Think that is fair enough, but unless Zurich has a far better species list overall, Cologne is worthy of a point. Alternatively if Cologne is way ahead I may vote 2-1 Cologne giving Zurich a point for exhibits